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Don Boyer · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2014, 01:54:33 PM »

Quote from: Fes on August 20, 2014, 02:20:39 AM

Every couple days I pop on to the LPCC site and see if I can purchase these. Great photos, they make me want to get my mits on them even more. Thanks for posting them.

We have a daughterboard for company topics in the Plethora - LPCC has one. If they're announcing something, you'll know about it there.

Marcus · « **Reply #26 on:** August 20, 2014, 07:49:40 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on August 19, 2014, 11:38:41 PM

Quote from: bamabenz on August 19, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
Ok, they are nice and all.........but the number is trademarked? Really? All by itself? And putting that all that trademark text on the AoS .... Gosh.

Pass.

It's not the AoS you're seeing, it's the tuck box - the tiny TM symbol is directly next to the title, which IS a trademark. The brand number may or may not be a trademark, I'm not sure, but it's not labeled as such in this image. If it is, I'm sure it's only in the context of being part of the title, i.e., "Legends No. 202" as opposed to simply the number 202 all by itself. Otherwise, USPC might make a stink over the following...

The 202 is really just a stock number, pretty much superfluous in the age of the barcode, and stock numbers such as these are retained by a lot of card makers only out of traditional and nostalgia.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that is the Ace we're seeing, Don. The tuck box is the box-looking thingy next to the Ace.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2014, 09:04:32 PM »

Well, it's the Ace NOW... But the spade on the card box has some extra details that the AoS doesn't, and the image I saw showed the box, not the Ace of Spades.

Nice Ace...

bamabenz · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2014, 09:32:14 PM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on August 20, 2014, 09:04:32 PM

Well, it's the Ace NOW... But the spade on the card box has some extra details that the AoS doesn't, and the image I saw showed the box, not the Ace of Spades.

Nice Ace...

Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkay. That clears that up......

Seriously, I like the graphic on the box, and would love to see that as the AoS.
But the actual AoS as depicted looks like it was designed by a lawyer...a bad lawyer.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2014, 11:01:37 PM »

Quote from: bamabenz on August 20, 2014, 09:32:14 PM

Quote from: Don Boyer on August 20, 2014, 09:04:32 PM
Well, it's the Ace NOW... But the spade on the card box has some extra details that the AoS doesn't, and the image I saw showed the box, not the Ace of Spades.

Nice Ace...
Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkay. That clears that up......

Seriously, I like the graphic on the box, and would love to see that as the AoS.
But the actual AoS as depicted looks like it was designed by a lawyer...a bad lawyer.

Seriously, as I'm looking at the topic now, there's a LOT of photos I didn't see here before. Maybe the computer at work is FUBAR or something...

BiggerDee · « **Reply #30 on:** August 27, 2014, 02:03:25 PM »

I bought some of these today to add to my Legends Series collection, but I didn't see anything about them being a limited release. That being said, have I missed something somewhere, or is it a safe assumption that these are an open series, and not a limited (1,500, 2,500, 5,000 only) run? Just curious.

Anthony · « **Reply #31 on:** August 27, 2014, 02:26:17 PM »

I've been looking forward to these since they were revealed, it is kind of funny that adding an additional deck to the 3 pack pops in $2.50 shipping, lol

.............I'm not crying about it, I understand the plite of international shoppers.

doubledouble · « **Reply #32 on:** August 27, 2014, 03:37:54 PM »

Quote from: BiggerDee on August 27, 2014, 02:03:25 PM

I bought some of these today to add to my Legends Series collection, but I didn't see anything about them being a limited release. That being said, have I missed something somewhere, or is it a safe assumption that these are an open series, and not a limited (1,500, 2,500, 5,000 only) run? Just curious.

3202 of each color, and "even less of each to be sold".

BiggerDee · « **Reply #33 on:** August 27, 2014, 04:48:45 PM »

Good info, thank you!

HolyJJ · « **Reply #34 on:** September 06, 2014, 03:58:38 PM »

The quality on this deck is insane!!

First of all, the tuck box... It's by far the best tuck so far from the printers in Taiwan. Tucks for previous decks by LPCC (and even EPCC) have been good, but this one takes quality to a new level.

The tuck card feels a lot more durable than anything I know of from USPCC, and the embossed foil is superb. The foil inside the tuck is in a league of it's own -- really shiny and very smooth to touch. Then of course there is the die cut, and perforated seal also. The tuck for this deck as it all.

The cards themselves are perfect for me -- brilliant slip factor, yet at the same time they have the right balance of tack also for extracting single cards (I've not had a single instance of 52-card-pick up with them, where as anything with the USPCC magic finish ends up on the floor at least twice).

The cards also slightly thicker than the Legends V2. Not as thick as the usual Bee Casino cards... but in my estimation, they're the same thickness as the Sharps by LPCC, and Richard Turner's Gamblers. This is my favourite thickness for cards, and so I absolutely love them. Handling is superb for shuffling and any expert at the card table type of sleights.

The artwork by Stutzman, is as expected, excellent. Although the back design for the Legends V2 had a lot more going on, the back design for the #202 Legends is very well balanced in my opinion. The two tone silver and blue is my favourite of the lot.

The card faces are one of the most pleasing things about this deck. Yes, the courts are traditional and not custom (yay!!), but they're the best recoloured traditional courts by far. LPCC have used a pretty cool gold ink on the courts which really makes the other colours (in particular, the red ink) look extra vivid and really 'pop'. Also, the AoS is really cool -- it's now a favourite for me.

The only imperfection I can spot is that the embossed foil on the tuck is sometimes a pixel off from deck to deck... but even that actually looks pretty cool, because it gives a 3D effect. Unless you have multiple decks to compare against, you'd probably think the 1 pixel offset was deliberate.

So, as I'm sure nobody will have been able to guess, I love the #202 Legends! I highly recommend these

Anthony · « **Reply #35 on:** September 06, 2014, 04:33:34 PM »

Ya, Holy JJ, this is for you my friend.......beautiful work by Lawrence and LPCC

HolyJJ · « **Reply #36 on:** September 06, 2014, 05:03:46 PM »

Excellent photos brother! +1 for you

I think anyone who likes the feel of the previous Legends decks, and also likes the feel of Bee cards, they'll really like these #202 Legends.

Where as V2 Legends took virtually no time to break in, I found that these ones took a bit longer... but once that was done, they handled brilliantly. Great deck.

Fess · « **Reply #37 on:** September 08, 2014, 12:36:40 AM »

Just found my parcel with the Legends EE decks in it haha. Apparently I've had the decks for a couple days and didn't know about it. I walked into my office after the game, sat down to enjoy practice time with some cards. Looked for some unknown reason at the bookshelf across the room and noticed two parcels lol. Viola! Legends EEs and stained glass KS deck. Gotta love it when someone kindly puts things away before you've had the opportunity to investigate what it may or may not be.

ruicorreia · « **Reply #38 on:** September 16, 2014, 11:31:43 AM »

I've received my decks.
Beside the tuck box (very well done) I really like the cut because the edges are now easier to grab. And I like that the cards are marked with the same binary system found on Legends V1. But I still haven't figured out how to spot the suits. Can anyone tell me?

bruh man · « **Reply #39 on:** September 16, 2014, 12:56:12 PM »

Quote from: ruicorreia on September 16, 2014, 11:31:43 AM

I've received my decks.
Beside the tuck box (very well done) I really like the cut because the edges are now easier to grab. And I like that the cards are marked with the same binary system found on Legends V1. But I still haven't figured out how to spot the suits. Can anyone tell me?

Took me a bit to figure out, look right below where the value of the card is marked.

Got mine recently and I love these cards, very high quality great design beautiful tuck box and the marking system is easy to read.

ecNate · « **Reply #40 on:** September 16, 2014, 12:56:47 PM »

Quote from: ruicorreia on September 16, 2014, 11:31:43 AM

I've received my decks.
Beside the tuck box (very well done) I really like the cut because the edges are now easier to grab. And I like that the cards are marked with the same binary system found on Legends V1. But I still haven't figured out how to spot the suits. Can anyone tell me?

Let's not post here though so the googlers and lurkers don't find out and the secret gets out and ruins it for all of us. I'll just mention that it's been pointed out that the 8oC and 9oC have the same number markings which kind of ruins it, but you can work that into your routine or maybe add your own additional mark on the 9oC for clarity. As for the suits, yeah, the answer is LITERALLY right next to where you were looking for the numbers.

Just look close and compare, you'll see it. I'm trying to come up with a mnemonic device to remember what each means though. Yeah, it's only 4 to remember, but something to help me learn will help.

Nurul · « **Reply #41 on:** September 16, 2014, 01:11:30 PM »

I don't have Egyptian legends yet, but if the marking system is the same as the V1s then there's already a topic where the secrets and clues have been revealed

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=3640.0

ruicorreia · « **Reply #42 on:** September 16, 2014, 01:24:10 PM »

Thank you ecNate and Nurul. I'll look better.

ecNate · « **Reply #43 on:** September 16, 2014, 01:44:18 PM »

Quote from: Nurul on September 16, 2014, 01:11:30 PM

I don't have Egyptian legends yet, but if the marking system is the same as the V1s then there's already a topic where the secrets and clues have been revealed

http://www.playingcardforum.com/index.php?topic=3640.0

If you have a smart phone and have a QR Code Reader app, look close at your box too.

Nurul · « **Reply #44 on:** September 16, 2014, 01:50:44 PM »

Quote from: ruicorreia on September 16, 2014, 01:24:10 PM

Thank you ecNate and Nurul. I'll look better.

Not a problem, it's a pretty lengthy discussion :p think they start getting revealed around page 12 or so

ecNate · « **Reply #45 on:** September 17, 2014, 11:29:06 AM »

Where was the quality control on this one? The 8oC and 9oC have same markings, but then the 10oC shows as 9, J as 10, Q as J, KoC is back to accurate. What else is screwed up???

Great, I now have a deck that can't be used for tricks and can't be used for poker because it's marked. I guess I have a pair of cardistry and child game decks now. Maybe I'll just add them to the collection, they still look nice.

bruh man · « **Reply #46 on:** September 17, 2014, 09:34:08 PM »

Quote from: ecNate on September 17, 2014, 11:29:06 AM

Where was the quality control on this one? The 8oC and 9oC have same markings, but then the 10oC shows as 9, J as 10, Q as J, KoC is back to accurate. What else is screwed up???

Great, I now have a deck that can't be used for tricks and can't be used for poker because it's marked. I guess I have a pair of cardistry and child game decks now. Maybe I'll just add them to the collection, they still look nice.

Oh wow, you're right. That is really disappointing because I really liked these decks too, what a shame. Has this been brought to their attention?

ecNate · « **Reply #47 on:** September 17, 2014, 09:55:43 PM »

Quote from: bruh man on September 17, 2014, 09:34:08 PM

Quote from: ecNate on September 17, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Where was the quality control on this one? The 8oC and 9oC have same markings, but then the 10oC shows as 9, J as 10, Q as J, KoC is back to accurate. What else is screwed up???

Great, I now have a deck that can't be used for tricks and can't be used for poker because it's marked. I guess I have a pair of cardistry and child game decks now. Maybe I'll just add them to the collection, they still look nice.
Oh wow, you're right. That is really disappointing because I really liked these decks too, what a shame. Has this been brought to their attention?

Yeah, I posted in their official thread here and also submitted a comment on their website. I did check all the other numbers and suits and they are fine, but I haven't figured out the rest of the clues to know if anything else is off.

I suppose a person could manually mark the 9oC and then just remember to add one to the marked 9 and then also remember to add one to the claimed 10oC, JoC and QoC, but when sleight of hand and quickness is part of the process that just adds another step and potential to be exposed. I really don't understand how they didn't have somebody 'proof read' the cards before going to print. "Commitment to Quality" eh?

Legends P.C.C. · « **Reply #48 on:** September 18, 2014, 12:24:20 AM »

Dear Nate,

Thank you for your email to us and for purchasing your Legends #202 Egyptian Edition decks. First off, we are more than happy to refund your order if you are unhappy with your decks. We feel for what you pay they are excellent value, 3D foiling, embossing, interior foil, etc. We may print future editions but the first edition will always be a first edition!

This deck has not been advertised as having any sort of marking system, nor do we say they are regulation decks for gaming. These are decks for collectors and card enthusiasts who appreciate quality and exquisite artwork. If you happen to find you can read the backs, then this an extra bonus! While you may have found two cards that are identical, keep in mind there is a lot more to markings than meets the eye. We recommend you pick up Casino Game Protection by Steven L. Forte for an informative read.

Again, we feel the #202 Egyptian Edition of Legends are a hallmark in printing and packaging design. You are free to disagree, and if you don't like your Egyptian Legends deck we will gladly refund your order if you are unhappy with your purchase.

Thank you and stay in touch for some very special releases coming soon!

Don Boyer · « **Reply #49 on:** September 18, 2014, 09:34:40 AM »

Would somebody kindly post photos of just what the heck it is they're talking about? I'd like to give these "marks" a look-see myself and I don't happen to own the decks.