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« on: June 23, 2014, 07:56:38 PM »
 

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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 08:14:57 PM »
 

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Really really cool! But I'm gonna be "that guy" only because I've looked into doing a Peter Pan deck myself. Even though the original story is public domain for sure. Disney owns a stack of copyrights that are as tall as all the Dan & Dave Smoke and Mirror Editions. Be careful and watch your tale Disney will eat your legal face off.

See also Wizard of Oz as it is in public domain but tons of copyrights keep doing anything remotely similar under lock down.
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Nothing wrong with these cards.  They are playable.  Large suit badge on the Top Right and the back of card doesn't break any rules. What about the copyright?    Hmmmm.....
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 08:33:39 PM »
 

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I like the art a lot - but as Jackson pointed out, I hope he's being careful with his character and location representations.  Anything too Disney and he'll be looking at C&D letters...
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 10:11:09 PM »
 

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Really really cool! But I'm gonna be "that guy" only because I've looked into doing a Peter Pan deck myself. Even though the original story is public domain for sure. Disney owns a stack of copyrights that are as tall as all the Dan & Dave Smoke and Mirror Editions. Be careful and watch your tale Disney will eat your legal face off.

See also Wizard of Oz as it is in public domain but tons of copyrights keep doing anything remotely similar under lock down.

As far as copyright goes the printing company USPCC, would not have said yes if there was any problem, and "once placed in the public domain, the Work may be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built upon, or otherwise exploited by anyone for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, and in any way, including by methods that have not yet been invented or conceived."
Also I spoke to a lawyer recently about public domain figures in playing card decks, and if the artist is creating his/her own art it is absolutely fine, no where is disney endorsing this.
EDIT: I should mention in no way is this legal advice. (always consult a IP lawyer in your state).

Okay now that i have finished my copyrighting rant I like theses cards, (what I can see of them) they are fun and kids would enjoy these.
 I would like to see more of the number cards, not sure why they are not being shared.
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 12:12:58 AM »
 

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Really really cool! But I'm gonna be "that guy" only because I've looked into doing a Peter Pan deck myself. Even though the original story is public domain for sure. Disney owns a stack of copyrights that are as tall as all the Dan & Dave Smoke and Mirror Editions. Be careful and watch your tale Disney will eat your legal face off.

See also Wizard of Oz as it is in public domain but tons of copyrights keep doing anything remotely similar under lock down.

As far as copyright goes the printing company USPCC, would not have said yes if there was any problem, and "once placed in the public domain, the Work may be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built upon, or otherwise exploited by anyone for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, and in any way, including by methods that have not yet been invented or conceived."
Also I spoke to a lawyer recently about public domain figures in playing card decks, and if the artist is creating his/her own art it is absolutely fine, no where is disney endorsing this.
EDIT: I should mention in no way is this legal advice. (always consult a IP lawyer in your state).

Okay now that i have finished my copyrighting rant I like theses cards, (what I can see of them) they are fun and kids would enjoy these.
 I would like to see more of the number cards, not sure why they are not being shared.

Rose,

I'm not going to assume anything about your knowledge of copyright or how the entertainment industry works when it comes to Intellectual properties. So I will respond with examples:

Sherlock Holmes: Totally in the public domain (trust me I know) But I encourage you to go make a deck of card using Benedict Cumberbatch and themes from "Sherlock" and see if the BBC doesn't call you.

Wizard of Oz: Totally in the public domain. But see what happens when you picture red ruby slippers in your deck of cards or create any character that looks remotely like the characters from the motion picture.

Peter Pan: Totally in the public domain. Unfortunately there have been numerous motion pictures, amusement rides, toy lines, pixie dust lines, cartoons that make new episodes now (Jake and the Neverland Pirates is one of my daughters favorite shows) all of which Disney owns copious amounts of copyrights, trademarks, patents on how a specific kung fu grip of how the Peter Pan action figure holds his sword.

First rule of copyright, If a large company (Disney qualifies) is making loads of money off of the retail sale of story or product line, you can be 100% sure that they hold very strong legal hold on atleast one aspect of the story that they can at will and with no recourse make you stop dead in your tracks.

I like these cards for multiple reasons, I like the art style, I loved themed decks. But reading wikipedia's definition of public domain and giving your self a green light is a horrible mistake.

Fortunately this is NOT Nathan's first rodeo and he's already worked and created a great IP deck with the Goonies deck so I'm really not that worried. If this was a rookie artist linking us to his Deviant Art page showing us his "versions" of the Peter Pan characters I would have a little different outlook and advise him/her to run for the hills.
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 12:18:07 AM »
 

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Being the Disney history buff that I am....
Even to this day, Disney actually pays royalities and licensing fees to a hospital in London called Great Ormond Street Hospital. Listed below is wiki info on the hospitals copyright and how it was extended forever by the UK government. Though your cards may not be a play or movie... I think they fall under derivative works. Oh yeah.. .not only did the UK government extened the copyright forever but so did the European Union.

Peter Pan copyright[edit]In April 1929 the hospital was the recipient of playwright J. M. Barrie's copyright to the Peter Pan works, with the provision that the income from this source not be disclosed. This gave the institution control of the rights to these works, and entitled it to royalties from any performance or publication of the play and derivative works. Four theatrical feature films were produced,[24] innumerable performances of the play have been presented, and numerous editions of the novel were published under licence from the hospital. Its trustees commissioned a sequel novel, Peter Pan in Scarlet, which was published in 2006 and received mixed reviews,[25][26] with a film adaptation planned.[27]

When the copyright originally expired at the end of 1987, 50 years after Barrie's death, the UK government granted the hospital a perpetual right to collect royalties for public performances, commercial publication, or other communications to the public of the work.[28] The UK copyright was subsequently extended through 2007 by a European Union directive in 1996 standardising terms throughout the EU to the author's life plus 70 years. GOSH has been in legal disputes in the United States, where the copyright term is based on date of publication, putting the 1911 novel in the public domain, although the Hospital asserts that the 1928 version of the play is still under copyright in the US.[29] Legal opinion as to whether or not permission is required for new works based on the story and characters is divided and open to interpretation and so far, there has been no legal precedent to prove one view or the other.

 

Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 01:08:19 AM »
 

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Really really cool! But I'm gonna be "that guy" only because I've looked into doing a Peter Pan deck myself. Even though the original story is public domain for sure. Disney owns a stack of copyrights that are as tall as all the Dan & Dave Smoke and Mirror Editions. Be careful and watch your tale Disney will eat your legal face off.

See also Wizard of Oz as it is in public domain but tons of copyrights keep doing anything remotely similar under lock down.

As far as copyright goes the printing company USPCC, would not have said yes if there was any problem, and "once placed in the public domain, the Work may be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built upon, or otherwise exploited by anyone for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, and in any way, including by methods that have not yet been invented or conceived."
Also I spoke to a lawyer recently about public domain figures in playing card decks, and if the artist is creating his/her own art it is absolutely fine, no where is disney endorsing this.
EDIT: I should mention in no way is this legal advice. (always consult a IP lawyer in your state).

Okay now that i have finished my copyrighting rant I like theses cards, (what I can see of them) they are fun and kids would enjoy these.
 I would like to see more of the number cards, not sure why they are not being shared.

Rose,

I'm not going to assume anything about your knowledge of copyright or how the entertainment industry works when it comes to Intellectual properties. So I will respond with examples:

Sherlock Holmes: Totally in the public domain (trust me I know) But I encourage you to go make a deck of card using Benedict Cumberbatch and themes from "Sherlock" and see if the BBC doesn't call you.

Wizard of Oz: Totally in the public domain. But see what happens when you picture red ruby slippers in your deck of cards or create any character that looks remotely like the characters from the motion picture.

Peter Pan: Totally in the public domain. Unfortunately there have been numerous motion pictures, amusement rides, toy lines, pixie dust lines, cartoons that make new episodes now (Jake and the Neverland Pirates is one of my daughters favorite shows) all of which Disney owns copious amounts of copyrights, trademarks, patents on how a specific kung fu grip of how the Peter Pan action figure holds his sword.

First rule of copyright, If a large company (Disney qualifies) is making loads of money off of the retail sale of story or product line, you can be 100% sure that they hold very strong legal hold on atleast one aspect of the story that they can at will and with no recourse make you stop dead in your tracks.

I like these cards for multiple reasons, I like the art style, I loved themed decks. But reading wikipedia's definition of public domain and giving your self a green light is a horrible mistake.

Fortunately this is NOT Nathan's first rodeo and he's already worked and created a great IP deck with the Goonies deck so I'm really not that worried. If this was a rookie artist linking us to his Deviant Art page showing us his "versions" of the Peter Pan characters I would have a little different outlook and advise him/her to run for the hills.

I have not just read wikipedia's definition! Did you miss the part where I wrote I have recently spoken to a lawyer regarding this topic?
Like I said please always seek your own legal advice regarding this matter.
 

Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 01:43:10 AM »
 

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Really really cool! But I'm gonna be "that guy" only because I've looked into doing a Peter Pan deck myself. Even though the original story is public domain for sure. Disney owns a stack of copyrights that are as tall as all the Dan & Dave Smoke and Mirror Editions. Be careful and watch your tale Disney will eat your legal face off.

See also Wizard of Oz as it is in public domain but tons of copyrights keep doing anything remotely similar under lock down.

As far as copyright goes the printing company USPCC, would not have said yes if there was any problem, and "once placed in the public domain, the Work may be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built upon, or otherwise exploited by anyone for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, and in any way, including by methods that have not yet been invented or conceived."
Also I spoke to a lawyer recently about public domain figures in playing card decks, and if the artist is creating his/her own art it is absolutely fine, no where is disney endorsing this.
EDIT: I should mention in no way is this legal advice. (always consult a IP lawyer in your state).

Okay now that i have finished my copyrighting rant I like theses cards, (what I can see of them) they are fun and kids would enjoy these.
 I would like to see more of the number cards, not sure why they are not being shared.

Rose,

I'm not going to assume anything about your knowledge of copyright or how the entertainment industry works when it comes to Intellectual properties. So I will respond with examples:

Sherlock Holmes: Totally in the public domain (trust me I know) But I encourage you to go make a deck of card using Benedict Cumberbatch and themes from "Sherlock" and see if the BBC doesn't call you.

Wizard of Oz: Totally in the public domain. But see what happens when you picture red ruby slippers in your deck of cards or create any character that looks remotely like the characters from the motion picture.

Peter Pan: Totally in the public domain. Unfortunately there have been numerous motion pictures, amusement rides, toy lines, pixie dust lines, cartoons that make new episodes now (Jake and the Neverland Pirates is one of my daughters favorite shows) all of which Disney owns copious amounts of copyrights, trademarks, patents on how a specific kung fu grip of how the Peter Pan action figure holds his sword.

First rule of copyright, If a large company (Disney qualifies) is making loads of money off of the retail sale of story or product line, you can be 100% sure that they hold very strong legal hold on atleast one aspect of the story that they can at will and with no recourse make you stop dead in your tracks.

I like these cards for multiple reasons, I like the art style, I loved themed decks. But reading wikipedia's definition of public domain and giving your self a green light is a horrible mistake.

Fortunately this is NOT Nathan's first rodeo and he's already worked and created a great IP deck with the Goonies deck so I'm really not that worried. If this was a rookie artist linking us to his Deviant Art page showing us his "versions" of the Peter Pan characters I would have a little different outlook and advise him/her to run for the hills.

I have not just read wikipedia's definition! Did you miss the part where I wrote I have recently spoken to a lawyer regarding this topic?
Like I said please always seek your own legal advice regarding this matter.

I posted the info from widipedia because it's probably not public knowledge that the UK and European Union made special amendments specifically for the Peter Pan copyright to always be out of the public domain. Your typical IP lawyer isn't going to know every single aspect of internationaly law. Just here in the US our government is taking special steps to keep Disney's very own Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, etc... out of the public domain. Governments can do that. They can make laws and modifiy laws as they see fit.
As far as Peter Pan the UK and EU did what they did because it's to help raise funds for that hospital (which the author wished to help).
Who says USPCC said yes about printing? They don't even except files for approval until you have the funding secured.
 

Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 02:02:18 AM »
 

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Yes, every country has it's own laws on copyright for different situations, and there are many factors to consider. I agree with Jackson Robinson that I just can't imagine the creator, who has completed 5 successful decks to have not done his own research and obtained legal counsel on this already.
As far as the USPCC It was my understanding that approval was needed before a project claiming they are the printers was needed. But I may be wrong, I am just sharing my opinion. Thanks for your insight rjtomlinson1977.
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
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As I see it, it's pretty simple.

If you're basing a work on the original novel and printing it in the United States, you're golden.  Nothing in the US older than 1923 is still under copyright, all of it having become part of the public domain.

If, however, any part of that work can be confused with or identified as being from a still-copyrighted derivative work, like the aforementioned movies and TV show, and it is not a parody of said derivative work, that's where the trouble begins.  The depiction of Captain Hook in the deck, for example, bears a striking resemblance to that of the movies "Peter Pan" and "Hook", both of which are very much still under copyright in the United States and property of the Disney Company.

As far as needing USPC permission to claim a project will be printed with them, well - I've seen countless projects make that statement.  Without a signed contract in place, it's a little harder for them to dictate such terms.  After all, we say "deck designer", they say "potential customer", so they're not going to push too hard on the subject, unless the designer has no intent of printing with them at all.  USPC will help with a little bit of the planning work needed before a KS launch in terms of supplying best practices documents and templates and such, but as was previously stated, they don't begin actually vetting a project until a contract is signed and funding is in place.  It's not impossible that they'd reject a project for certain reasons, but I've never seen them go that far - the closest would be a non-KS project, the Karnival Inferno deck; the company forced a redesign of the artwork to remove some of what they perceived as the more "Satanic" elements and the Bicycle brand name was removed.

Without making modifications to the art or obtaining a license from Disney, he stands a good chance of running into legal problems.

And absolutely none of this takes into account trademark law - with proper renewal and lack of dilution, a trademark can be renewed in perpetuity.  It would surprise the hell out of me if Disney didn't take some effort to trademark their depictions of the characters from their version of "Peter Pan" and any derivative works they've created.

Trademark law, not copyright law, is what USPC uses to keep others from printing Bicycle Rider Backs, claiming a trademark on their unique card back design as well as the jokers and the Ace of Spades.  The rest of the deck's design can't be defended under any such law, because there's hundreds of years of prior art - it would be like claiming a trademark or copyright on the alphabet or the Declaration of Independence.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 03:03:50 AM »
 

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In respect to the copyright issue with this deck, it is in fact a much more unique and interesting matter.

The writer of Peter Pan was closely connected to charity work with childrens hospitals - and wrote the stories as something to be told to the children. Along with this all of the Royalties, trademarks, and copyrights of any nature connected to Peter Pan were set up within a trust, as an entity to forever raise funds for Children Health research (conducted at the University College of London) along with donating to the Great Ormond Street Children Hospital (who run the trust since the writers death).

In 1987, the UK Government created a special provision to have Peter Pan classed into a unique category (Section 301 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (UK))- which has since been backed up a legal derivative created by the European Union Copyright Derivative in 1996.

Disney has been to court over whether or not it is required to pay any royalties to the Childrens Hospital (When I last looked this matter hasn't been settled) as such until the matter is completely resolved Disney themselves cannot create any laws whilst their own legal use is in dispute. The debate is whether or not the US will recognise these special rulings on UK works.

To confuse matters more, royalties payment scheme currently only list a % of profits from book sales, and/or ticket sales (regarding the stage play) and do not directly look into other areas as a direct matter, albeit with no true precedent set regarding the legal status at current, many organizations make a profits contribution as a charity donation (which is also a tax deduction for the organizations) as a faith of good will (Except for Disney which is disputing having to make any Charitable contributions as they claim the works are purely Public Domain).

Link to one of the more recent disputes over the copyright:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1447493/Disney-quits-Peter-Pan-film-after-row-over-Gt-Ormond-St.html

Please note that the Hospital accepted a 500 pound donation allowing a shop  to use the images and the name back in 2003, and its acceptance stopped legal proceedings by Disney.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 03:37:34 AM »
 

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In respect to the copyright issue with this deck, it is in fact a much more unique and interesting matter.

The writer of Peter Pan was closely connected to charity work with childrens hospitals - and wrote the stories as something to be told to the children. Along with this all of the Royalties, trademarks, and copyrights of any nature connected to Peter Pan were set up within a trust, as an entity to forever raise funds for Children Health research (conducted at the University College of London) along with donating to the Great Ormond Street Children Hospital (who run the trust since the writers death).

In 1987, the UK Government created a special provision to have Peter Pan classed into a unique category (Section 301 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (UK))- which has since been backed up a legal derivative created by the European Union Copyright Derivative in 1996.

Disney has been to court over whether or not it is required to pay any royalties to the Childrens Hospital (When I last looked this matter hasn't been settled) as such until the matter is completely resolved Disney themselves cannot create any laws whilst their own legal use is in dispute. The debate is whether or not the US will recognise these special rulings on UK works.

To confuse matters more, royalties payment scheme currently only list a % of profits from book sales, and/or ticket sales (regarding the stage play) and do not directly look into other areas as a direct matter, albeit with no true precedent set regarding the legal status at current, many organizations make a profits contribution as a charity donation (which is also a tax deduction for the organizations) as a faith of good will (Except for Disney which is disputing having to make any Charitable contributions as they claim the works are purely Public Domain).

Link to one of the more recent disputes over the copyright:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1447493/Disney-quits-Peter-Pan-film-after-row-over-Gt-Ormond-St.html

Please note that the Hospital accepted a 500 pound donation allowing a shop  to use the images and the name back in 2003, and its acceptance stopped legal proceedings by Disney.

Thanks for the more detailed information. It's a really tricky situation dealing with stories like Peter Pan. You often think since it's in the public domain that it's fair game but you might end up on the wrong end of a long legal battle.
 

Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 07:31:01 AM »
 

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As I see it, it's pretty simple.
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As far as needing USPC permission to claim a project will be printed with them, well - I've seen countless projects make that statement.  Without a signed contract in place, it's a little harder for them to dictate such terms.  After all, we say "deck designer", they say "potential customer", so they're not going to push too hard on the subject, unless the designer has no intent of printing with them at all.  USPC will help with a little bit of the planning work needed before a KS launch in terms of supplying best practices documents and templates and such, but as was previously stated, they don't begin actually vetting a project until a contract is signed and funding is in place.  It's not impossible that they'd reject a project for certain reasons, but I've never seen them go that far - the closest would be a non-KS project, the Karnival Inferno deck; the company forced a redesign of the artwork to remove some of what they perceived as the more "Satanic" elements and the Bicycle brand name was removed.

The Alice of Wonderland Play Cards Deck was given an ultimatum by USPCC ... either change the project "to eliminate every Wonderland element (no Hatter, no White Rabbit, no Alice of Wonderland title, no Cheshire Cat, etc)," or pound sand.  According to the project creator, "I could not foresee the original printer changing their minds late in the project."  Cartamundi looked at the same project and the same copyright issues and arrived at a different answer.  The project switched to Cartamundi.  (Sadly, the project then ran afoul of money/shipping issues and deliveries are supremely delayed--but that's a rant for another day. :-)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jsolorzanoarts/alice-of-wonderland-playing-cards-printed-by-uspcc

It *is* pretty simple.  If you can't find a printer who will print your cards, then your project is dead in its tracks.

BTW, I'm not saying that the printer is the judge and jury--they don't have the *final* say on whether you will get sued into submission by Disney's Army Men of lawyers.  Or whether you would ever win in a court of law if you *did* decide to play How Big Is Your Budget For Lawyers? with someone like Disney.  But the printers are an absolute hurdle.  If you can't convince them, then your project is done-zo.

Yes, done-zo is a legal term.  Look it up.

:-)

P.S. This is about the digression topic, not about Nat's card deck.  Knowing him, I'm guessing he's done the homework and has at least lots of his non-infringing non-Disney ducks lined up already.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2014, 08:19:16 AM »
 

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Here's Nat's response:

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Hey folks, just wanted to jump in on the discussion. First off, USPCC has seen and approved the tuck and is looking at the cards for any needed changes. I have tried to take the necessary steps to ensure that I am only using quotes and character descriptions directly from the original book "Peter and Wendy" which is in the public domain. I take issue with the statement that my work is a "blatant take on Disney art." There will of course be similarities since they are both based on the same book, but I am taking my cues from the book's description, NOT Disney, and trying to keep my character designs different from theirs.

Also, Disney only pays royalties to GOSH because they are using elements from the play and later book based on the play. Disney does not, however, pay royalties on other Tinkerbell movies which are derived from the oringinal book and not the play.

It is a source of concern that I am very aware of and trying to be in the know about. I'll keep everyone posted.
 

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2014, 03:33:02 PM »
 

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Just wanted to let you all know that I have received full confirmation from USPCC's legal department that I am in the clear for this deck. I had perhaps prematurely assumed as much after them approving the tuck designs, but they've given the go ahead on the existing card art as well.

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Just wanted to let you all know that I have received full confirmation from USPCC's legal department that I am in the clear for this deck. I had perhaps prematurely assumed as much after them approving the tuck designs, but they've given the go ahead on the existing card art as well.

-Nat

Hi, Nat, thanks for stopping by.

It's still possible, even with USPC Legal signing off on your deck, that the Disney Company might try to argue that you're using their IP.  If they start spreading those C&D letters, USPC will drop the project like a hot potato.

I'm all for the deck and you have gorgeous art for it.  Just insure that your characters bear as little resemblance as possible to the characters from Disney's movies.  If it's possible to confuse theirs with yours, you stand a good chance of being sued.  Your Captain Hook would be one I'd consider as borderline.
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2014, 09:28:33 AM »
 

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Just wanted to let you all know that I have received full confirmation from USPCC's legal department that I am in the clear for this deck. I had perhaps prematurely assumed as much after them approving the tuck designs, but they've given the go ahead on the existing card art as well.

-Nat

Hi Nat,
Thanks for joining us all here, and we appreciate the update and wish you the best with your KS. You have immense talent and I am happy to see it will soon be on playing cards again.
-Rose
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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2014, 10:30:49 AM »
 

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These decks are printed and shipping out.






Also, if you missed out, they are available on Gambler's Ebay page

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=171594095243&_ssn=playingcardsdotnet&_sop=10


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Re: Neverland Bicycle Playing Cards by Nathan Iwata (KS)
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2014, 02:12:51 PM »
 

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That is a nice-looking deck!
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