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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #75 on: July 26, 2015, 01:32:24 AM »
 

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Received my 14 decks of Jetsetter yesterday, and I absolutely love them!

I've spent a good 4 hours shuffling the cards, and they feel great -- they have a really nice, top quality feel to them.‎

I love how sharp the courts look -- the choice of colours has worked brilliantly. That red looks very much like the one used on the faces of most casino decks... which itself is a pretty‎ cool thing!

I'm definitely going to enjoy the cards :D

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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #76 on: July 26, 2015, 01:43:28 AM »
 

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Hey!  That's not how you're supposed to play with them!  :))
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2015, 11:00:59 AM »
 

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Received my 14 decks of Jetsetter yesterday, and I absolutely love them!

I've spent a good 4 hours shuffling the cards, and they feel great -- they have a really nice, top quality feel to them.‎

I love how sharp the courts look -- the choice of colours has worked brilliantly. That red looks very much like the one used on the faces of most casino decks... which itself is a pretty‎ cool thing!

I'm definitely going to enjoy the cards :D



Whoa! Love the photo! Do you mind if I repost this photo on social media?

I'm really glad you're loving the decks. Everyone is pleased with the final product which is great to hear. When I officially saw the physical proofs a while back, I was extremely satisfied with the choices I made for the recoloring. Thank you for your awesome support!
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2015, 02:20:05 PM »
 

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Hey Paul!

Glad you liked the photo! I did post it on Instagram also -- I'm pretty sure I tagged both Jetsetter and LPCC in it. Of course brother, feel free to repost :D

I've given the cards some serious use since their arrival, and as usual, the diamond finish cards are pretty much indestructible -- just like the LUXX V2, the quality of these cards basically wipe the floor with USPCC cards. The gap in quality is probably wider than the gap between the north pole and the south pole.

The combination of the excellent handling, and the classy, casino style back design, and the most practical face designs possible, makes the deck ‎a massive winner in my books! These are definitely one of my favourites :D
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2015, 11:39:46 PM »
 

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Paul - I'm thinking that a second version should be in the works, with new back colors!  Now that you've done green, you can hit on the more traditional red, blue and/or black...
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #80 on: July 28, 2015, 03:38:02 PM »
 

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Paul - I'm thinking that a second version should be in the works, with new back colors!  Now that you've done green, you can hit on the more traditional red, blue and/or black...

See attached. I started playing with a few colorways over the weekend - revisited the original color (green), blue, and red. In addition, I started working on a tuck case that I feel would turn out really nice. It's in the very beginning stages though.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2015, 06:02:41 PM »
 

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Very nice indeed! :D

It's quite amazing how many options a simple, yet classy design gives.

Paul, would you consider the idea of making that particular design borderless? A borderless version of the repeating plane design would be absolutely perfect for gambling sleights.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #82 on: July 28, 2015, 11:37:37 PM »
 

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Very nice indeed! :D

It's quite amazing how many options a simple, yet classy design gives.

Paul, would you consider the idea of making that particular design borderless? A borderless version of the repeating plane design would be absolutely perfect for gambling sleights.

I like the bordered look, myself.  It's more reminiscent of the airport signs that inspired the deck's design.  There's no shortage of decks out there you can execute gambling sleights with!
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #83 on: July 29, 2015, 02:45:37 AM »
 

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Very nice indeed! :D

It's quite amazing how many options a simple, yet classy design gives.

Paul, would you consider the idea of making that particular design borderless? A borderless version of the repeating plane design would be absolutely perfect for gambling sleights.

I like the bordered look, myself.  It's more reminiscent of the airport signs that inspired the deck's design.  There's no shortage of decks out there you can execute gambling sleights with!

Don't get me wrong, I never implied that the bordered design was bad (or even not-so-good) in any way whatever -- it does indeed look cool.

However, I just wanted to get an idea of what sort of direction Paul is willing to take designs to.

You're right that there are decks out there for gambling slights... but all borderless decks with small, repeating back designs (like the Bee deck) are USPCC decks. I've made my personal preference relatively clear over the past year -- and so if I was to be using USPCC decks, quality and handling wise, it would be like trying to perform gambling slights with newspaper or toilet paper. Doesn't work for me brother.

Of course, I recognise that in the end, I may be part of a minority, and that Paul's final designs will be ones which he feels has the widest appeal. I've not done the market research, and so I can't say for certain what majority want. Still, I figured that there's no harm in asking.‎
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #84 on: July 29, 2015, 04:15:12 AM »
 

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Very nice indeed! :D

It's quite amazing how many options a simple, yet classy design gives.

Paul, would you consider the idea of making that particular design borderless? A borderless version of the repeating plane design would be absolutely perfect for gambling sleights.

I like the bordered look, myself.  It's more reminiscent of the airport signs that inspired the deck's design.  There's no shortage of decks out there you can execute gambling sleights with!

Don't get me wrong, I never implied that the bordered design was bad (or even not-so-good) in any way whatever -- it does indeed look cool.

However, I just wanted to get an idea of what sort of direction Paul is willing to take designs to.

You're right that there are decks out there for gambling slights... but all borderless decks with small, repeating back designs (like the Bee deck) are USPCC decks. I've made my personal preference relatively clear over the past year -- and so if I was to be using USPCC decks, quality and handling wise, it would be like trying to perform gambling slights with newspaper or toilet paper. Doesn't work for me brother.

Of course, I recognise that in the end, I may be part of a minority, and that Paul's final designs will be ones which he feels has the widest appeal. I've not done the market research, and so I can't say for certain what majority want. Still, I figured that there's no harm in asking.‎

There are countless decks from other companies out there with borderless, repetitive designs!  The Bee Diamond Back is one of the most imitated card back designs in the history of playing cards.  Many companies make copies and variants of them, including a number of Chinese and European manufacturers - some even make great examples of them in plastic.

I can understand the desire to see it in a well made LPCC or EPCC deck, though.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #85 on: July 29, 2015, 06:39:37 AM »
 

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Don, I'm not disputing that there are other decks out there from other companies... but the problem that I have is that all of the companies (at least the ones whose decks I've tried) with the borderless, repeating designs have quality that is either not much better (and sometimes even worse!) than that of USPCC.

I've tried Cartamundi, and Gemaco, ‎amongst others, and the combination of stock and coating that they use was inferior to even the Bee deck! 

The first edition MPC deck was one of the last few‎ that I tried, and although the stock wasn't the world's worst, the design was one way, and due to the cutting method, the edges chipped even worse than any of the USPCC decks.

Therefore just having lots of variety isn't the issue -- it's the quality of ‎the variety. If it's all mediocre, then the fact that there is variety is pretty much irrelevant... after all, having lots of garbage to choose from isn't exactly something that appeals to me.

The only such deck that impressed me was the Ascal decks that our resident legend, Lee Asher, has on his website -- the stiff and durable cardstock is excellent (better than even USPCC from their Ohio days, in my opinion), and once broken in, the coating is pretty cool also. The fact that they're traditionally cut is brilliant also. Although they are boderless and do have a repeating back pattern, they also have a mirrored casino logos placed in the usual spot... and so second and bottom deals are not as deceptive as they could have been, had the logos not been there.

Don, you've been in the game a lot longer than I have, and I'm taking it for granted that you've handled a much larger variety of cards than I have... and so if you can point me to a specific, high quality‎, borderless deck with a repeating borderless design, then I'm definitely all ears brother.

Until then though, in my mind, a borderless version of Paul's latest design, on LPCC's diamond finish‎ would feature very very high on my wish list.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #86 on: July 29, 2015, 11:20:33 AM »
 

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Don, I'm not disputing that there are other decks out there from other companies... but the problem that I have is that all of the companies (at least the ones whose decks I've tried) with the borderless, repeating designs have quality that is either not much better (and sometimes even worse!) than that of USPCC.

I've tried Cartamundi, and Gemaco, ‎amongst others, and the combination of stock and coating that they use was inferior to even the Bee deck!

The first edition MPC deck was one of the last few‎ that I tried, and although the stock wasn't the world's worst, the design was one way, and due to the cutting method, the edges chipped even worse than any of the USPCC decks.

Therefore just having lots of variety isn't the issue -- it's the quality of ‎the variety. If it's all mediocre, then the fact that there is variety is pretty much irrelevant... after all, having lots of garbage to choose from isn't exactly something that appeals to me.

The only such deck that impressed me was the Ascal decks that our resident legend, Lee Asher, has on his website -- the stiff and durable cardstock is excellent (better than even USPCC from their Ohio days, in my opinion), and once broken in, the coating is pretty cool also. The fact that they're traditionally cut is brilliant also. Although they are boderless and do have a repeating back pattern, they also have a mirrored casino logos placed in the usual spot... and so second and bottom deals are not as deceptive as they could have been, had the logos not been there.

Don, you've been in the game a lot longer than I have, and I'm taking it for granted that you've handled a much larger variety of cards than I have... and so if you can point me to a specific, high quality‎, borderless deck with a repeating borderless design, then I'm definitely all ears brother.

Until then though, in my mind, a borderless version of Paul's latest design, on LPCC's diamond finish‎ would feature very very high on my wish list.

I have those Ascals - and another deck from the same manufacturer.  They're from the Angel Playing Card Company of Osaka, Japan.  They put out a good quality card and they do casino-style decks - you should check them out.  The other deck I have is Angel brand - a diamond pattern on the back, but with a sizable white border.  However, I know they make all kinds of decks - I've seen their website.  As I understand it, they have a healthy chunk of the casino business throughout Asia and Australia.

Try some of the companies that specialize in poker decks, especially the plastic ones.  Copag, Modiano, etc., even try Fournier.  Stick with mostly the European makers (and Copag, which is Brazilian).  You're bound to find something to like.  You can also try "J Design" (they spell it "Desjgn" on their cards).
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #87 on: July 31, 2015, 10:28:17 AM »
 

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Don't mean to hijack the Jetsetter Thread, but here are some Angel diamond back (if you look closely, the diamond patter is made up of capital 'A's) decks with no borders...they go for 3-4 USD each in Asia...
 

Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #88 on: July 31, 2015, 12:32:30 PM »
 

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Paul, would you consider the idea of making that particular design borderless? A borderless version of the repeating plane design would be absolutely perfect for gambling sleights.

I explored the borderless design before the first Kickstarter campaign and remember shying away from it. I can definitely revisit it again and see how it feels. I'm always open to exploring and revisiting suggestions. I think I was partially worried about the design chipping along the edges during cutting of the cards. I really didn't feel confident it would be flawless and if the cards did end up chipping, it'd would have irked me really bad. But that was when I was exploring USPCC as the printer.

I like the bordered look, myself.  It's more reminiscent of the airport signs that inspired the deck's design.

That's exactly the direction I was looking to go (revisiting the original Kickstarter design) by creating the border that simulates an airport sign. However, I do think a borderless design could really work but I'd have significant concerns with the edges and cutting. Not sure if I'll want to place that stress on myself. haha. I'm confident in LPCC and EPCC but I think I'd still be on edge. Also, the tuck case I have started designing for v2 would better represent the bordered version.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #89 on: July 31, 2015, 01:13:13 PM »
 

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Cardfool, thanks for those images brother -- appreciated! I can't find any of those on any UK sites... but hopefully I can pick some up from somewhere.

Don, thanks for the run-through of some of those decks. I have tried some of them, and to be honest, although some of the decks were okay, they weren't exactly on par with LPCC or EPCC.

Paul, it's AWESOME to hear that you're at least willing to consider trying out a borderless design. Obviously you have to go with what you personally believe works best for the brand... but if it does happen, it would be brilliant!

Regarding chipped edges... it's definitely a legitimate concern for USPCC printed decks. I think you'd be in luck with LPCC decks though.

I'm copy-pasting an extract that Lawrence provided for the Tenebre 2 campaign:

"As with TENEBRE ROSSO, the combination of full bleed artwork yields gorgeous fans, with our paper stock resisting chipping, so you don't get those white spotted edges after handling your cards."

Tenebre 2 decks will be shipped out sometime in September... and so I'll get to test them out first hand! :D
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #90 on: August 01, 2015, 03:05:54 AM »
 

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Don, thanks for the run-through of some of those decks. I have tried some of them, and to be honest, although some of the decks were okay, they weren't exactly on par with LPCC or EPCC.

These are the decks I'm referring to - the ones I have.  Forgive the crappy photos, they're from someone's eBay sale.  They're of a higher quality and I know there's at least one prominent magician who used them in an instructional video.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2015, 10:42:37 AM »
 

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Just wanted to keep everyone up-to-date... Jetsetter Playing Cards is almost 100% fulfilled. All the decks have been shipped. Some are still arriving to their various destinations. I'm hoping to launch the website soon. It's basically ready to launch, just need to finalize a couple business-related items. In addition, I haven't received the bulk of my inventory so I may have to delay the launch if I do not receive that inventory soon. However, exciting times ahead. Stay tuned.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2015, 11:17:45 AM »
 

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I recently received the shipment of Jetsetter Playing Cards decks for the website. So, if you missed out on the Kickstarter or looking to purchase additional decks of Jetsetter Playing Cards or other swag, jetsetterplayingcards.com is officially open to the public. Enjoy!
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2015, 12:30:28 AM »
 

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Exploring a "branded" version of Jetsetter Playing Cards. See attached. Nothing official... yet.
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2015, 12:32:46 AM »
 

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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2015, 10:10:42 AM »
 

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Run with it, that's a win Paul.  :)

Thanks, Fes! The feedback seems to be very positive thus far. Just the right amount of change on the back design (and the Ace of Spades).
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2015, 03:27:55 PM »
 

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Thanks, Fes! The feedback seems to be very positive thus far. Just the right amount of change on the back design (and the Ace of Spades).

The Ace of Spades is soooooooooo beautiful !
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #97 on: October 30, 2015, 11:36:06 PM »
 

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I would love to see one little tweak - light touches to make the courts more unique yet still traditional.  By that, I mean little extras - like a set of pilot wings on a King, worn like a lapel pin, or a brooch on a Queen in the shape of an airliner.  Little, subtle touches, not major changes, that tell people this is the Jetsetter's deck!
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Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #98 on: November 01, 2015, 09:20:44 AM »
 

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Exploring a "branded" version of Jetsetter Playing Cards. See attached. Nothing official... yet.

I like the branded backs.
 

Re: Jetsetter Playing Cards (KS)
« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2015, 06:22:31 AM »
 

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Exploring a "branded" version of Jetsetter Playing Cards. See attached. Nothing official... yet.

I like the branded backs.

I believe he meant branded as in with the brand name of an airline or a plane manufacturer, something to that effect.  Either that, or selling his cards under a different brand, like Legends or Bicycle.
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