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Marcus · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2014, 06:24:13 AM »

...Go on.

Nurul · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2014, 07:18:54 AM »

A bit more info rob? Lol

Have they decided to release this? Cos i know it was a free item with a purchase of a mixed NOC brick when that was released on the CARC website.

Rob Wright · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2014, 09:36:22 AM »

Zen was all the EPCC facebook page said. The free ones were the red prototypes w/NOC bricks

Don Boyer · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2014, 09:32:57 PM »

Last time I discussed the subject with Bill Kalush, he stated that the original prototype Zen decks he gave away with the NOC v3 bricks were never to go on sale. They're good decks but not the finished product. THIS, however, is the finished product.

Will W. · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2014, 09:57:16 PM »

The box is awesome and all but I especially like the backs on these. Any idea as to when we will get a peek at the fronts/faces/courts ?

Rose · « **Reply #6 on:** August 17, 2014, 05:27:11 AM »

I imagined Zen being much more minimal, not what I expected, but wow awesome.

MrMollusk · « **Reply #7 on:** August 17, 2014, 06:36:11 PM »

Quote from: Rose on August 17, 2014, 05:27:11 AM

I imagined Zen being much more minimal, not what I expected, but wow awesome.

I think the ZenPure is the more minimal one.

LOVE the look thus far though. I'll definitely pick some up.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #8 on:** August 17, 2014, 09:45:23 PM »

Quote from: MrMollusk on August 17, 2014, 06:36:11 PM

Quote from: Rose on August 17, 2014, 05:27:11 AM
I imagined Zen being much more minimal, not what I expected, but wow awesome.

I think the ZenPure is the more minimal one.

LOVE the look thus far though. I'll definitely pick some up.

You are correct, sir - Zen Pure bears more of a resemblance to brown Wynn's and the Madison Something-or-Others...I've lost track of all the designs and names, they blend together in my head like a blur.

BiggerDee · « **Reply #9 on:** August 18, 2014, 09:21:53 AM »

Nice backs, and I love the red foil on satin black! I'm really enjoying the side tucks as well, they are really growing on me. Don, do you know if the faces are custom, or standard?

Don Boyer · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2014, 12:22:29 AM »

Quote from: BiggerDee on August 18, 2014, 09:21:53 AM

Nice backs, and I love the red foil on satin black! I'm really enjoying the side tucks as well, they are really growing on me. Don, do you know if the faces are custom, or standard?

I saw them on a visit to CARC and don't recall seeing custom faces - but then again, I was looking at prototypes and not the finished product you're seeing now. As far as that's concerned, my information is useless. I'm hoping to get in there this week before I leave for a trip, so if I learn anything new, I'll let you know.

BenMorrisRains · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2014, 04:16:15 AM »

Super stoked on this one!!! Bricks on bricks on brickssss

Utterfool · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2014, 11:38:15 AM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on August 19, 2014, 12:22:29 AM

my information is useless.

Well at Least we are now all in agreement

The things we can prove with proper editing. I need to work for Fox news

Don Boyer · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2014, 09:16:57 PM »

Quote from: Utterfool on August 19, 2014, 11:38:15 AM

Quote from: Don Boyer on August 19, 2014, 12:22:29 AM
my information is useless.

Well at Least we are now all in agreement

The things we can prove with proper editing. I need to work for Fox news

Nah, they have enough fiction authors on the payroll as it is...

ruicorreia · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2014, 11:49:31 AM »

Really nice! Looking forward to know more about this deck.

ruicorreia · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2015, 05:05:59 PM »

Zen Pure is out on CARC http://shop.conjuringarts.org/store/pc/zen-c169.htm?atc=1&idproduct=1184

Rob Wright · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2015, 05:48:58 PM »

ZEN PURE- BLACK

ZEN PURE- GOLD

sprouts1115 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2015, 07:42:57 PM »

Nice minimal back of card. Foil and emboss one element on your tuck box is my only suggestion. Seems like the thing to do today...

sae2111 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2015, 01:19:35 AM »

I received an email about this earlier. Looks like the the Zen version of the limited Imps Gamesters - or vice versa - not sure which was designed first. Perhaps they were developed together....

see_squared · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2015, 01:37:27 AM »

Quote from: sae2111 on February 06, 2015, 01:19:35 AM

Looks like the the Zen version of the limited Imps Gamesters - or vice versa - not sure which was designed first. Perhaps they were developed together....

The truth is both decks were totally independent of each other. When I was visiting NYC late last year I was showing Bill the artwork for the Gamesters & Limited Edition Gamesters and expressed what I had in mind for them with the gold and silver foils. He said it was a great idea and then showed me (and gave me) a deck of the Zen Pure Golds...after seeing it in person, I knew I was making the right decision.

Rob Wright · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2015, 01:39:00 AM »

Quote from: sae2111 on February 06, 2015, 01:19:35 AM

I received an email about this earlier. Looks like the the Zen version of the limited Imps Gamesters - or vice versa - not sure which was designed first. Perhaps they were developed together....

This style has become more common in recent years. A lot of people call it a "Casino Style".
Here are few well known examples

Brown Wynns

Madison Rounders

Jerry's Nugget

sprouts1115 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:54:33 PM »

@Rob - The minimalist deck is here to stay. I think you can even call it a category. I heard something about fanboys...

Don Boyer · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2015, 02:20:59 AM »

Quote from: see_squared on February 06, 2015, 01:37:27 AM

When I was visiting NYC late last year...

You were in my town and didn't even say hello!? I feel offended!

Quote from: Rob Wright on February 06, 2015, 01:39:00 AM

This style has become more common in recent years. A lot of people call it a "Casino Style".
Here are few well known examples

I wouldn't call the Jerry's Nugget deck a "recent" anything!

But yes, this is a style that originated with casinos and is pretty popular with collectors today. I get the feeling that it was the Brown Wynn deck that kicked this off as part of the modern collecting boom - Theory11 had it as a rare deck for a while.

Quote from: sprouts1115 on February 06, 2015, 06:54:33 PM

@Rob - The minimalist deck is here to stay. I think you can even call it a category. I heard something about fanboys...

It's not REALLY a minimalist deck. It's only the back designs on all of these decks that are simple and/or minimal - in most of the cases described here, the faces are standard or close to it.

Fess · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2015, 05:37:34 PM »

I think everyone here knows I really like the previous Zen decks. I'll definitely be picking ~~some~~ lots of these up, hopefully in all three flavors.

sae2111 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2015, 07:19:12 PM »

Quote from: Rob Wright on February 06, 2015, 01:39:00 AM

Quote from: sae2111 on February 06, 2015, 01:19:35 AM
I received an email about this earlier. Looks like the the Zen version of the limited Imps Gamesters - or vice versa - not sure which was designed first. Perhaps they were developed together....

This style has become more common in recent years. A lot of people call it a "Casino Style".
Here are few well known examples

Brown Wynns

Madison Rounders

Jerry's Nugget

It wasn't the style so much that struck me as more than coincidental. Both decks black/gold and red/silver. The Imps production moving from USPCC to EPCC. The announcement of the Zens a few days after funding closed for the limited Gamesters. I went in for both versions of the Gamesters on Kickstarter, so they were fresh in my mind. When I received the announcement about the Zens, I saw the photos and thought "Wait a minute. This looks familiar."