Vegas Playing Cards (KS)

[Fess]

Vegas Playing Cards

A deck of playing cards with exciting artwork and beautiful handling for magicians and cardists. But we need money to start printing.

[Rob Wright]

Only a picture of the back. And not a good picture at that. At least make the picture look sort of like a card. I just don't understand how people can put up projects like this. If they looked at any other projects, they would know this isn't going to work. Terrible planning and project.

[sprouts1115]

"The cards will be printed by the US Playing Card Company so the quality of the deck will be unquestionable."

£ 300 seems a bit low for a USPCC deck.

[Don Boyer]

This name sounds too familiar.  I think that he tried once before to make a deck project on KS, but under a different account.

• 300 GBP is insanely too low for a USPC-made deck, though he does say this is for "initial starter money".  The problem there is that 300 GBP won't start a moped at USPC, never mind a pack of custom cards!  I'm not even sure that's enough for anything more than a few proof sheets or perhaps a prototype deck, which you won't get anyway if you haven't paid for the full job up front.  USPC does not extend credit unless they actually owe you money, in which case it's not really credit in the first place, is it?
• His story is near totally devoid of images of the cards he's planning to make, despite his declaration that he's working with "a brilliant marketing team" - albeit an unnamed marketing team...
• Since when is USPC's quality "unquestionable"?  I've raised many questions about it before!
• His website, typed without the "www." at the front, leads to a GoDaddy page that indicates the domain is presently "parked for FREE"!  I see; it must be that crack marketing battalion he mentioned...
• The website's "About" section mentions that he had a tour this past summer which "finishes...at the Astor Theater in Deal on 24th July 2014."  OK - has it been that long since the site was updated?  Hey, act fast!  "There are still tickets available for the showing in London on the 5th July 2014!"  Offer expires while you wait!
• I especially like the ads on his site for both custom computer servers in Aberdeen, stage shows at Lincoln Center in New York, Chromecast (watch Google on your TV!) AND dating services to meet Chinese, Arab and Thai women!  At least he doesn't appear to discriminate...

   
ANY ONE OF THESE would qualify as a red flag for a KS deck project!!!  All of these together get it promoted to "certified train wreck in the making"!

[Collector]

I have a feeling that I saw these pips on some vector stock site. He added neon effect to them and (possibly) created the inscription. For those who hasn't understood - these pips and the inscription are the only custom things in this deck. I think this is more for cardists and magicians.

[rjtomlinson1977]

The Vegas logo isn't from this guy either (well unless he's the one that designed it back in 2007). This Vegas logo ambigram has been around for a while.
In fact, the vector is readily available anywhere on the internet.

[Will W.]

Found this youtube video of the creator of this,  uuuuhhhhh, project...  I was less than impressed. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVaddxmylw

[ryzellon]

This name sounds too familiar.  I think that he tried once before to make a deck project on KS, but under a different account.

You're probably thinking of Benji Taylor, creator of the ICON deck.

[Don Boyer]

Found this youtube video of the creator of this,  uuuuhhhhh, project...  I was less than impressed. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVaddxmylw

Only got through the first two minutes before the audio quality drove me away.  I think he shot it on an old VHS camcorder or something with similarly bad wide-area microphones attached to the camera.

The "trick" he was doing is nothing anyone couldn't do with a good pack of marked cards.  In fact, it's the WORST use of a marked deck there is; in essence, it's "Pick a card - put it back - is THIS your card?"  Mental as a doorknob.  No better than a kid using a stripper deck for the first time and simply yanking the card out of the middle of the pack for the reveal.  I'm curious how long it took for people to catch on.

This name sounds too familiar.  I think that he tried once before to make a deck project on KS, but under a different account.

You're probably thinking of Benji Taylor, creator of the ICON deck.

Nope.  There was a young British kid who tried getting a deck made on KS and it was a dead-simple design and terrifically too small of a goal for the project to succeed unless he exceeded it by a few orders of magnitude.  But this guy appears like he's approaching adulthood, so maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

[ryzellon]

This name sounds too familiar.  I think that he tried once before to make a deck project on KS, but under a different account.

You're probably thinking of Benji Taylor, creator of the ICON deck.

Nope.  There was a young British kid who tried getting a deck made on KS and it was a dead-simple design and terrifically too small of a goal for the project to succeed unless he exceeded it by a few orders of magnitude.  But this guy appears like he's approaching adulthood, so maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

Let me clarify: when you say you think "he tried once before," you're probably thinking of Benji Taylor, creator of the ICON deck. That's the young British kid. Benji first tried Kickstarting some trilogy project. He then deleted the account when that campaign failed, tried one re-print deck before he launched his ICON deck successfully.

This Benjy appears to be someone else altogether.

[Don Boyer]

This name sounds too familiar.  I think that he tried once before to make a deck project on KS, but under a different account.

You're probably thinking of Benji Taylor, creator of the ICON deck.

Nope.  There was a young British kid who tried getting a deck made on KS and it was a dead-simple design and terrifically too small of a goal for the project to succeed unless he exceeded it by a few orders of magnitude.  But this guy appears like he's approaching adulthood, so maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

Let me clarify: when you say you think "he tried once before," you're probably thinking of Benji Taylor, creator of the ICON deck. That's the young British kid. Benji first tried Kickstarting some trilogy project. He then deleted the account when that campaign failed, tried one re-print deck before he launched his ICON deck successfully.

This Benjy appears to be someone else altogether.

You might be right.  When you mentioned ICON, I was thinking of LoTrek's new project.

[Fess]

Relaunched.

Playing Cards Vegas Series.
By Benjy Cohen

[Don Boyer]

It's the same wet, sticky mess as before, it seems.  Borrowed art (what little there is), no visible court cards, indices way too far from the corners to be of any good use and a goal that's well underfunded for even a modest 2,500-deck print run with USPC.

Pass, with big red flags waving in the wind.