FUNDED *InDemand* Mantecore Playing Cards LIVE on IndieGoGo

[Don Boyer]

We are now InDemand on the Indiegogo site. But not for long. So grab them while you still can.

What, exactly, is "InDemand?"  Sounds like TV pay-per-view...

[Siegismyname]

Hey Don,

Basically we are now still accepting any contributions made to our project. This only happens if and when out project meets our goal, which we did. This allows us to give anyone who wants to get them at the backer price another few more weeks and it allows us to raise more funds for Panthera, the organization that we would be donating to. After this the campaign will officially be over and the only way to get them is via retailers.

Thanks for asking so that we could clear that up

Cheers
Ben

[Don Boyer]

Hey Don,

Basically we are now still accepting any contributions made to our project. This only happens if and when out project meets our goal, which we did. This allows us to give anyone who wants to get them at the backer price another few more weeks and it allows us to raise more funds for Panthera, the organization that we would be donating to. After this the campaign will officially be over and the only way to get them is via retailers.

Thanks for asking so that we could clear that up

Cheers
Ben

As much as I dislike IndieGoGo, that is preferable to them charging you immediately for a project that may or may not hit its goal in a month down the road.  Most people at Kickstarter do that - but through BackerKit rather than directly through KS.  I've always wondered why KS doesn't offer the same services, or simply buy out BackerKit in much the same way that eBay bought out PayPal because it became so integral to the company's business.

[Siegismyname]

Hey guys, it's me again. We have been working really hard back end to get the printed ASAP. We are glad to announce that this deck will come in 1 colour but 2 finishes, diamond and emerald from LPCC. This allows you to better choose the finish that suits your needs. By default, you will receive the diamond finish deck as promised on the campaign page (http://igg.me/at/mantecore/x/5105034). But of you would prefer the emerald finish ones, just drop me an email and I will take care of the rest.

For those that are unaware, the Mantecore campaign is still available for pledging. The InDemand phase of the campaign will officially end at the end of the month. After that, the price of the decks will be at least $12 at retailers. So do grab a couple at the campaign price if you're interested. Here is the link once again http://igg.me/at/mantecore/x/5105034

Cheers
Ben

[Siegismyname]

Hey guys! Since all the backers decks have been shipped, I just wanted to check in if any of you have received your decks and what you think of them.

Ben

[10ofclubs]

Are these going to be available for purchase anywhere? I didn't want to sign up for Indie GoGo just for this campaign and therefore missed it.

[Don Boyer]

Are these going to be available for purchase anywhere? I didn't want to sign up for Indie GoGo just for this campaign and therefore missed it.

If you create an IndieGoGo account without backing anything, you can send the creator a message.  That would be the fastest route to getting your answer, I'd think.

[HankMan]

Are these going to be available for purchase anywhere? I didn't want to sign up for Indie GoGo just for this campaign and therefore missed it.

This deck is available from Cardvolution.com since they co-produce this deck.

1 thing I noticed about the emerald finish that I received last week. After playing with it for a while doing riffle shuffle, dribbling, passes and faro, I found some colour stains on my fingers and the card edges as well.

Has anyone open their diamond finish mantecore deck? I just want to know if it has the same issue.

[Don Boyer]

Are these going to be available for purchase anywhere? I didn't want to sign up for Indie GoGo just for this campaign and therefore missed it.

This deck is available from Cardvolution.com since they co-produce this deck.

1 thing I noticed about the emerald finish that I received last week. After playing with it for a while doing riffle shuffle, dribbling, passes and faro, I found some colour stains on my fingers and the card edges as well.

Has anyone open their diamond finish mantecore deck? I just want to know if it has the same issue.

I've run into this at the hospital with a variety of decks.  If you use hand sanitizer, make sure your hands are completely dry before handling the cards.  Better to wash and dry your hands, especially with collectibles.

[HankMan]

Are these going to be available for purchase anywhere? I didn't want to sign up for Indie GoGo just for this campaign and therefore missed it.

This deck is available from Cardvolution.com since they co-produce this deck.

1 thing I noticed about the emerald finish that I received last week. After playing with it for a while doing riffle shuffle, dribbling, passes and faro, I found some colour stains on my fingers and the card edges as well.

Has anyone open their diamond finish mantecore deck? I just want to know if it has the same issue.

I've run into this at the hospital with a variety of decks.  If you use hand sanitizer, make sure your hands are completely dry before handling the cards.  Better to wash and dry your hands, especially with collectibles.

oh I had experience this twice, once with the Serpentine deck and the second with Mantecore...
I don't normally wash my hand before use and even when I do, I always completely dry my hand.

That is the reason why I think only the emerald finish had this issue.

[Don Boyer]

oh I had experience this twice, once with the Serpentine deck and the second with Mantecore...
I don't normally wash my hand before use and even when I do, I always completely dry my hand.

That is the reason why I think only the emerald finish had this issue.

The only possible cause I can think of that makes sense is that somehow you transferred moisture from your hands to the cards.  It's not like the ink isn't dry when you get them.  If you look at the card edges, have they warped at all or do they have any odd black stains?  I kept wondering where the black stains on the edges were coming from on a lot of my decks, even tried to remove/erase them, until I accidentally got a deck wet and saw the edge turn black - it's exposed graphite from the card's glue layer.  When they get a little wet, it shows up like a sore thumb, especially on USPC's stock.

[Siegismyname]

Hey guys. I haven't gotten my Emerald finish deck so u cannot tell you for sure. I did have that problem with the serpentines though but did not have any problems with the Diamond deck. This might be because they are from 2 different printers.

They are indeed available via cardvolution.com for preorder at a special price that will only last for another week before reverting to the MSRP of USD12/SGD17.

I will feedback this to Legends and see what they say. Thank you for your awesome feedback. I do agree with Don about USPC decks turning black on the sides ones they come in contact with moisture.

EDIT: They will also be available via Penguin very soon.

[HankMan]

oh I had experience this twice, once with the Serpentine deck and the second with Mantecore...
I don't normally wash my hand before use and even when I do, I always completely dry my hand.

That is the reason why I think only the emerald finish had this issue.

The only possible cause I can think of that makes sense is that somehow you transferred moisture from your hands to the cards.  It's not like the ink isn't dry when you get them.  If you look at the card edges, have they warped at all or do they have any odd black stains?  I kept wondering where the black stains on the edges were coming from on a lot of my decks, even tried to remove/erase them, until I accidentally got a deck wet and saw the edge turn black - it's exposed graphite from the card's glue layer.  When they get a little wet, it shows up like a sore thumb, especially on USPC's stock.

I don't think that was the case, the card didn't warped at all. If you look at the first photo this is a comparison between Mantecore and Bicycle deck, from here you can see the colour difference. You might not see much difference on the photo but from what I can see the Mantecore deck edges had turned pinkish I am assuming this is the colour transfer after use.

On the second photo, you should be able to see a slight pinkish colour on the first phalanx of my index finger. I started to notice that when I did a couple dribbles and classic passes.

and the last photo look at the warped card on the top of the deck, I purposely drop that card into my fish tank and let it sink all the way to the bottom. After I picked it up from the tank I just wiped it with dry cloth. Apart from it being warped, the card doesn't expose any graphite layer or any black edges.
Hence I don't think moisture transfer from hand will exposed the graphite layer on any EPCC or LPCC deck.

[Siegismyname]

Thank you for the feedback once again Hankman. I just pulled out my Red Serpentines and they indeed have that reddish marks on the side of the cards. I'll ask Lawrence about this.

I am amazed that you actually put a card into the fish tank.

[HankMan]

I did a comparison test a while back using LPCC diamond finish against USPCC Air Cushion finish. I put the card under running tap water for 5 seconds then dry it immediately. The test result showed that the water almost had no effect to the diamond finish, I might had rubbed off some of the coating when drying it off but the card is still very strong and didn't warped at all. The UPCC deck on the other hand, didn't hold up too well and as expected the graphite layer was visible on the edges.

Then came the fish tank, I thought lets try another comparison test between Serpentine - Emerald Finish, LUXX - Diamond Finish (both from LPCC) vs D&D Aviator Heritage - Magic Finish (USPCC).
This time I drop each cards into the fish tank and let it sink all the way to the bottom. it takes about 4 seconds (the depth is about 48 cm) and by the time I removed the cards, it should be in the water for almost 7 seconds. As I said the emerald finish did warped but that is about all, where as the diamond finish hold up very well.
Well for the Magic Finish, I don't think I have to say much. It was completely destroyed...

Anyway I didn't mean to go off the topic, I got to excited when you mention the fish tank 

[Don Boyer]

I am amazed that you actually put a card into the fish tank.

Anyway I didn't mean to go off the topic, I got to excited when you mention the fish tank 

I'm not surprised at this.  LPCC and EPCC, to the best of my knowledge, only use European-made stocks, similar to the stock used by Fournier to make their Lee Asher Signature 605s.  It's a well-known fact that 605s can be dunked into a glass of water and cleaned off by daubing with no ill effects to the paper.  One would never dream of attempting this with a USPC deck and expect it to survive the process, unless it was made of plastic or made at Fournier's plant.

[Siegismyname]

Hey guys. Just realized I didn't follow up on this. Lawrence from Legends did confirm that certain reds do come off the backs or front of the cards and stain the sides.

Also. Now that all backers should have received their pledge and the decks been sold on major dealers, what do you guys think about the deck(if you have one). What did you like or think could be improved on.

Ben

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

nobody goes to the contest thread - so I am posting this here (sorry admins) I am giving away a free deck of Mantecore cards in this month contest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kdk4uhOgSc

[Justin O.]

nobody goes to the contest thread - so I am posting this here (sorry admins) I am giving away a free deck of Mantecore cards in this month contest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kdk4uhOgSc

Thanks!! I am in!

[Don Boyer]

nobody goes to the contest thread - so I am posting this here (sorry admins) I am giving away a free deck of Mantecore cards in this month contest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kdk4uhOgSc

I don't mind posting about it in the deck's topic as well, since it is this deck that's the prize.  The contest topic is really just "one-stop shopping" for people to read about contests; I'm not opposed to posting about it elsewhere as appropriate.