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Been looking and can't seem to find an answer. I want to properly store my decks in their own hard plastic case. So I need a hard plastic case that will fit a standard poker deck still in its tuck box. I know they make them for just the cards.

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I am not sure if this fits what you are looking for, but give it a try.

https://coinsforanything.com/store/product-type/other/playing-cards/orbiter
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2015, 04:22:46 AM »
 

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Been looking and can't seem to find an answer. I want to properly store my decks in their own hard plastic case. So I need a hard plastic case that will fit a standard poker deck still in its tuck box. I know they make them for just the cards.

Any suggestions.

There was a display case seen around here recently that had these "capsules" which held a complete deck in box - if it wasn't too big.  While there's a standard for height and width of a playing card, there's no standard for thickness nor for the precise size of the box.  I suppose you could call it "one size fits most."  EDIT: I see someone's posted about it - the Orbiter.

I've seen cardboard boxes a-plenty that do a great job, and I've seen "Pack Jackets" sold by the Conjuring Arts Research Center (conjringarts.org) in coated paper.  They do a great job - but they're not clear and see-through like plastic.

UltraPro is a leader in the sports and gaming card industry (gaming as in collectible card games, not as in casino games), manufacturing protective gear for people's card collections and game decks.  They make a two-piece box of clear plastic that's designed to hold 100 cards with protective plastic sleeves on them - this would probably accommodate at least one if not two poker-sized decks in their boxes.  But I can't say that with complete certainty - you'd have to test it for yourself.

http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=767

While gaming cards are about the same size as a poker card in most cases, they're often used and stored in thin plastic sleeves that add a wee bit to the height, width and thickness of a card.  That little bit of extra space is what makes many of the storage units UltraPro offers ideal for playing cards in their tuck boxes as well as gaming cards in their sleeves.  From what I can see, though, that one item, the two-piece clear box, is the only one they have that's both clear and most likely well-suited for an entire deck (or two) of cards.  On the plus side, they're also stackable.

Basically, most products made for the sports cards or gaming cards collector hobby will work fine with playing cards as well.  For example, there's a product called a "monster box" - an archival cardboard box designed to hold 5,000 sports cards.  I use them for my decks - a single monster box holds 125 typical poker decks.  There are several similar boxes in smaller sizes that work as well, depending on the number of decks you want to protect/store - the smallest I've seen will hold a single pack of cards with just a little room to spare.

It's usually better to stick with a name brand like UltraPro instead of getting something generic when it comes to products such as these - it's the only way you can be assured of getting products that are archival quality and won't leach chemicals on to your collectibles over time.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2015, 04:48:47 AM »
 

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Thanks for the info.

Saw The Orbiter around. The clear Acrylic protective case is exactly what I want... Just without all the other junk around it. After I put the decks into the case... Then I will just store them all in a storage bin. That way everything is really protected.

I'll try the ultra pro stuff. Maybe it will work. Worth a try.
 

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2015, 05:19:23 AM »
 

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Thanks for the info.

Saw The Orbiter around. The clear Acrylic protective case is exactly what I want... Just without all the other junk around it. After I put the decks into the case... Then I will just store them all in a storage bin. That way everything is really protected.

I'll try the ultra pro stuff. Maybe it will work. Worth a try.

If all you're planning to do is store them, forget the added expense of the clear box!  They'll be perfectly fine in the cardboard boxes I described to you - and which UltraPro sells used to sell - can't find them on their website anymore!  Buying clear plastic cases for anything other than display is a waste of money.

I did manage to find the clear plastic boxes in more sizes:
Two-piece - http://www.ultrapro.com/product_list.php?cPath=90_29
Hinged - http://www.ultrapro.com/product_list.php?cPath=90_36

I thought UltraPro would have those large, corrugated boxes, but this was the best I could find.
http://www.ultrapro.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=corrugated&search_in_description=1&x=0&y=0
There's no indications of size, but they look to hold perhaps 15 decks a piece - nowhere near enough for a large collection.

A keyword search on Amazon had much better results - sports card storage box.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sports+card+storage+box
Apparently what I used to call a "monster box" is now called a "super monster box" (5000-card capacity), while the next size down is a "monster box" (3200-card capacity) - each "200-count" worth storage capacity is roughly equal to 5 decks in boxes.  Some of the boxes are also unusually tall, like the 1600-count "shoe box" size - you could probably stack decks to increase capacity in such boxes.  Look closely and you'll also see discounts for buying in bulk.

When you receive the cardboard boxes, they come flat - they're not difficult to assemble, all tab-and-slot construction and no glue or tape required.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2015, 05:39:05 AM »
 

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Don,

I know exactly what you are talking about for those cardboard boxes. I have tons of them for my MTG cards. Use them all the time.

I was just thinking that... Since the tuck boxes are part of the value of the playing card decks, that they should be just as protected as the cards. Card board storage boxes can get bent and deteriorate over time. So the hard plastic cases would add just that much more protection. Or so that was my thought. I have some decks that cost me upwards of $50.

But it our the pro. If you don't think it is necessary... I'll take your advice.
 

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2015, 08:05:17 AM »
 

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I have been eyeing the single deck plastic slider cases here, but have not purchased any yet...if you do end up getting a few, let me know how they turn out...

http://caragails.com/boxes.htm
 

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Just a quick note about trading card game sleeves: I would stay away from UltraPro, their sleeves are low quality and tend to split at the seams and come apart. I don't know if that poor quality carries over to their other products, but just about any other brand out there will out perform/outlast Ultras.
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UltraPro has a case that will fit "Most" decks, I say most because some custom decks run a tad larger and these cases fit snugly. They do the trick for most of my Autographed decks.........but a few will not fit.

We used these on the Aquila Signature deck. As Don mentioned, keep a look out for pricing.

 

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Don,

I know exactly what you are talking about for those cardboard boxes. I have tons of them for my MTG cards. Use them all the time.

I was just thinking that... Since the tuck boxes are part of the value of the playing card decks, that they should be just as protected as the cards. Card board storage boxes can get bent and deteriorate over time. So the hard plastic cases would add just that much more protection. Or so that was my thought. I have some decks that cost me upwards of $50.

But it our the pro. If you don't think it is necessary... I'll take your advice.

If you're storing sealed decks in their cellophane, or even open decks, those boxes are perfect for the job and highly economical.  I, too, have individual decks that are quite expensive, and those boxes haven't let me down yet.  The added cost of individual plastic cases just isn't worth it for the entire collection - but if you were to buy them solely for the expensive decks placed in cardboard boxes with the rest, they certainly won't do any harm.  Bear in mind, though, that the additional bulk of plastic cases might mean your cardboard boxes will hold a few less decks as a result.

I also have another great storage solution for decks that I want easy access to - stackable drawers from Staples.  I know I've written about them elsewhere around here - a keyword search for "Staples" and "drawers" will probably turn them up.  The drawers are quite sturdy, hold 45 decks each, are removable but don't simply slide out by accident and can be stacked as high as you like - though I wouldn't recommend more than about a dozen drawers high, without the included caster wheels (the mounting points will certainly break under the weight).  Furniture foot pads will give you enough movement to reposition them on hard floors.

Just a quick note about trading card game sleeves: I would stay away from UltraPro, their sleeves are low quality and tend to split at the seams and come apart. I don't know if that poor quality carries over to their other products, but just about any other brand out there will out perform/outlast Ultras.

I suspect you might have caught a bad batch - I used to use UltraPro sleeves and card cases all the time.  They usually held up better than the "no-name" brand stuff - they even felt thicker.  I never once had one split at the seam.  Either that or their quality standards have fallen over the years - I hope that isn't the case.

Make sure your sleeves have the hologram dot on the corner with UltraPro's logo.  Without that, they're just knockoffs.

UltraPro has a case that will fit "Most" decks, I say most because some custom decks run a tad larger and these cases fit snugly. They do the trick for most of my Autographed decks.........but a few will not fit.

We used these on the Aquila Signature deck. As Don mentioned, keep a look out for pricing.

That actually looks rather nice.  Now we know how the UltraPro boxes work!

Did you ever get the larger sizes?  For example, a "100-count" box would be big enough for a two-deck set.  It defeats the purpose of using clear plastic to a certain extent, but It's also possible that the additional space might allow two decks to fit more easily.

I've also seen some semi-transparent hinged boxes before, but they were sized to just hold the cards.  Kikkerland used them for their clear plastic decks, and I think USPC used them for their Bicycle and Hoyle clear plastic decks.  Those would be pretty nice for just holding the cards in a transportable way, I suspect.
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Did you ever get the larger sizes?  For example, a "100-count" box would be big enough for a two-deck set.  It defeats the purpose of using clear plastic to a certain extent, but It's also possible that the additional space might allow two decks to fit more easily.

This is on my "To Do" list Don, I just keep forgetting every time I go replenish. But it's for the exact reason you mentioned, I wonder if there is just a little more room? If the UltraPro's were literally a few centimeters larger on both sides they would be perfect..........maybe an email to them is due, they could pick up a whole new market, lol
 

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For years (5 or 6) I purchased the Ultra-Pro cases for my collection of paper and plastic decks.  They were usually the perfect size although a few of the odd sized decks wouldn't fit.  I sometimes had to add some plastic shims to keep some of the decks from rattling around.  Buying them in case lots of 100 was a lot more economical.  2 years ago they decided to stop making the correct size.  I sent emails to the dealer and manufacturer begging them to make them again.  Ultra-Pro absolutely refused claiming the market wasn't large enough.  Perhaps if enough of us send emails they might reconsider.  I hope so, because, after lots of research, the Ultra-Pro cases were the best that I have found.  I did try the Caragails cases, I probably have 30 or so in my collection.  But the Ultra-Pro seemed to fit better.

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I too have been using Ultra Pro cases for 4 years already. I usually go for the 250 count 2 piece box, fits 7 decks with a little room to wiggle around. Works well with vintage decks too as it somehow prevent further warping of the deck.
 

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These are the best card cases I have found. The are not bulky like the thick acrylic ones. I have hundreds of these.

I got a KS deck in one of these and it is fantastic.
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These are the best card cases I have found. The are not bulky like the thick acrylic ones. I have hundreds of these.

I got a KS deck in one of these and it is fantastic.

Those are good boxes - if only they were still available.

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Did you ever get the larger sizes?  For example, a "100-count" box would be big enough for a two-deck set.  It defeats the purpose of using clear plastic to a certain extent, but It's also possible that the additional space might allow two decks to fit more easily.

This is on my "To Do" list Don, I just keep forgetting every time I go replenish. But it's for the exact reason you mentioned, I wonder if there is just a little more room? If the UltraPro's were literally a few centimeters larger on both sides they would be perfect..........maybe an email to them is due, they could pick up a whole new market, lol

I was actually in talks with them at one point to create products for the playing card collector market.  As you'd expect, I had to loan them a dollar so they could buy a clue - and they still didn't get it.  It's almost easier to become their competitor.
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I use the UltraPros as well. The decks are a bit snug (Not to the point of any damage), and I wish that there was a click retention system for the front cover, but they work well. I probably have a couple of hundred for some of my most prized decks. I can't remember at the moment where I bought them, but I would buy in cases of 50 for the price break.
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