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ksi · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2015, 12:47:46 PM »

Quote from: BiggerDee on December 17, 2015, 12:16:03 PM

These designers and companies frustrate me. Why they insist that I go through the trouble of actually ordering is beyond me. They know what I like, and they have my credit card number on file. They should just drive by my house, jam as many into the mailbox as they can, and then charge me accordingly. Simple.

:-)

Or how about a pre-order period? Let everyone place order in that period (say, 2 weeks) and then print the amount accordingly. A bit similar procedure as to Kickstarter.

Justin O. · Quote from: touya on September 15, 2019, 03:53:04 AM

Quote from: PrincessTrouble on December 17, 2015, 10:44:53 AM

The Classic Reserve has foiled backs. The regular Classic does not. The Reserve decks are limited to 1,000 with only 100 being released today.

Do we know a release window yet?

BiggerDee · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2015, 01:25:05 PM »

Just announced per CARC: 2PM EST.

PrincessTrouble · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2015, 02:04:48 PM »

Now live.

ksi · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2015, 02:13:31 PM »

Reserve version sold out.
So quick.

Lucky I am able to secure a few.

Justin O. · Quote from: touya on September 15, 2019, 03:53:04 AM

In for Three of each, I absolutely love the tuck on these. Jackson really hit it out of the park with the vintage americana style on them, reminds me of an old world sports pennant. very curious about the robusto stock, and to see how the size of the deck in-tuck compares next to a standard deck.

HolyJJ · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2015, 02:17:47 PM »

The reserve version was sold out before I could get in

Got 3 of the regular decks though.

BiggerDee · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2015, 02:23:08 PM »

Two Reserve, Three Regular for me.

Mark · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2015, 08:30:28 PM »

That was extremely annoying. Was watching it all day then got sidetracked. Will have to wait for the general release or just pass.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #34 on:** December 19, 2015, 12:11:08 AM »

With Reserve sold out by the time I got there, I opted to wait for regular release.

ksi · « **Reply #35 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:05:18 AM »

Received mine today.

Beautifully printed. The gold foil shines. Tuck box is extremely thick.

The deck is thick and tough. The measurement I read for my deck is 16.8mm (52 cards) and 97.5g.

But it is a bit too thick to do faro. And maybe too stiff to perform some tricks.

My first feeling is somewhat like the Rhino dart flights.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #36 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:40:02 AM »

Quote from: ksi on December 30, 2015, 03:05:18 AM

Received mine today.

Beautifully printed. The gold foil shines. Tuck box is extremely thick.

The deck is thick and tough. The measurement I read for my deck is 16.8mm (52 cards) and 97.5g.

But it is a bit too thick to do faro. And maybe too stiff to perform some tricks.

My first feeling is somewhat like the Rhino dart flights.

You couldn't faro them? I seem to recall being able to faro the sample I tried out at the CARC offices. Perhaps they need a little breaking in.

HolyJJ · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2015, 03:47:22 AM »

Mine arrived yesterday also

I've given them about half an hour of shuffles so far, and whilst I will want to put them through at least another 3 hours of heavy use, I can straight away conclude that once again, EPCC quality completely demolishes U‎SPCC (lack of) quality.

As KSI has pointed out, the tuck box paper is thick and feels nice and sturdy. Jackson's tuck design is very classy, and it certainly does put across the image of superior quality.

The cards themselves... in all honesty, I was expecting them to (1) feel more like master/diamond finish cards, and (2) feel stiffer.

The cards have a more "paper" type of feel to them, rather than the somewhat slick and "plastic" type of feel that many say master finish has.‎ The cards are thick. Very thick. The flimsly and cheap feeling Bee casino paper of today from USPCC is a joke (that's what on social media I call it the toilet paper finish)... and so comparing the Robusto stock to today's Bee Casino would probably be insulting.

However, the Bee Casino paper from 2006 was definitely great at its time, and in comparison to that, the Robusto stick is both thicker and stiffer. 2006 Bee Casino had a thick and spongy feel to them, where as Robusto is thicker and stiffer.

Am I disappointed? Nope, not at all. Not one bit brother. It's just different, that's all.

I agree with KSI that the thickness makes Rubosto a little more difficult to do faro (or interlace) shuffles with.‎ Even though the cards are slightly stiffer (although not by much) than master finish cards, it's still easy to do moves like Steve Forte's tabled bridge shuffle that he does with his fingertips.

Riffle stacking is very very easy with this deck, in comparison to thinner stocks (such as USPCC junk). For my style of bottom dealing, master finish is still the better choice for me, purely because of the coating which makes master finish cards easier to grip.

Overall, very very nice deck. The classic back design looks superb in black and gold, and the quality is definitely something that EPCC have every right to brag about. Great stuff.

I look forward to the regular release, so that I can get some of the limited reserve decks this time!

ksi · « **Reply #38 on:** December 30, 2015, 05:16:07 AM »

Quote from: Don Boyer on December 30, 2015, 03:40:02 AM

Quote from: ksi on December 30, 2015, 03:05:18 AM
Received mine today.

Beautifully printed. The gold foil shines. Tuck box is extremely thick.

The deck is thick and tough. The measurement I read for my deck is 16.8mm (52 cards) and 97.5g.

But it is a bit too thick to do faro. And maybe too stiff to perform some tricks.

My first feeling is somewhat like the Rhino dart flights.

You couldn't faro them? I seem to recall being able to faro the sample I tried out at the CARC offices. Perhaps they need a little breaking in.

Yes I can faro them. Just they are not very easy to do a perfect faro upon brand new right out of the box status. I think they need some time to breaking in.

Overall I am quite impressive with this deck. I like the thickness very much. And I like it is more "paper" feeling than the diamond/master finish. The only thing I would comment is, this deck seems a little bit over-stiff for me. But again, the situation could be improved after breaking-in.

Don Boyer · « **Reply #39 on:** January 03, 2016, 12:09:25 AM »

Quote from: ksi on December 30, 2015, 05:16:07 AM

Yes I can faro them. Just they are not very easy to do a perfect faro upon brand new right out of the box status. I think they need some time to breaking in.

Overall I am quite impressive with this deck. I like the thickness very much. And I like it is more "paper" feeling than the diamond/master finish. The only thing I would comment is, this deck seems a little bit over-stiff for me. But again, the situation could be improved after breaking-in.

The stiffness is a property of the thickness of the paper. I would think it would take SERIOUS breaking in to make that looser - the ones I saw had some handling on them and they were still very stiff. It's what sets Robusto apart from other stocks - it's why it was codenamed "Iron Stock" while it was still in development.

BiggerDee · « **Reply #40 on:** January 04, 2016, 01:59:52 PM »

My USPS lady rang for a signature today, I'm sure that it was my cards. How dare I not be at home at 10:30Am on a Monday! Sigh...another day's wait...

Paul Carpenter · « **Reply #41 on:** January 04, 2016, 04:50:34 PM »

These are some tough cards. I got 2 of the limited decks and have been playing with one for a few days now. They shuffle and faro beautifully for me, but I'll be darned if I can spring them. I've got pretty strong hands but I can't get enough bend on these bad boys to do a smooth spring, they just put up a fight! Lovely cards though, great box from jackson and the foiling is superb. I'm pretty sure I'll have to do a full foil back like this sometime this year, it's just so pretty...

PrincessTrouble · « **Reply #42 on:** January 05, 2016, 11:20:33 AM »

I've been calling these the Viagra cards since they're so stiff and hard. After 4 hours of play, I considered consulting a physician.

And so looking forward to an Encarded fully foiled back!!!!

Justin O. · Quote from: touya on September 15, 2019, 03:53:04 AM

Still waiting for mine to show up =(

Don Boyer · « **Reply #44 on:** January 06, 2016, 02:49:21 PM »

Quote from: Justin O. on January 05, 2016, 12:29:10 PM

Still waiting for mine to show up =(

Remember, it was the holidays. Deliveries are backed up the wazoo in some places...

William Klok · « **Reply #45 on:** January 07, 2016, 05:19:52 AM »

That looks amazing.
The back design made me think of the "Royal Zen" deck, which in my opinion looks absolutely gorgeous. Even though I have not managed to get my hands on a set of those.

I will get those as soon as they are available in my country, thanks for the post!

HolyJJ · « **Reply #46 on:** January 07, 2016, 05:51:54 AM »

I've been practising with the superior brand for a week, and I really do love this deck!

Although Diamond/Master Finish still is my favourite (the slip factor is better on them), Rubosto is definitely excellent.

Personally, I would have liked the cards to still be a little stiffer... but hey, I can't complain -- I'm just glad that this card stock exists!

I definitely see myself stocking up on these once they get a regular release, and I really hope that EPCC puts out more Robusto decks.

When I think "Casino quality cards", this is the type of stock/finish that comes to mind. EPCC have definitely hit a home run with this one

Justin O. · Quote from: touya on September 15, 2019, 03:53:04 AM

Finally got mine in!
...
I think I broke my thumb...

PrincessTrouble · « **Reply #48 on:** January 09, 2016, 09:50:24 PM »

Got a callous on my index finger knuckle from shuffling Robustos! LOL

Don Boyer · « **Reply #49 on:** January 11, 2016, 12:31:44 AM »

Quote from: HolyJJ on January 07, 2016, 05:51:54 AM

Personally, I would have liked the cards to still be a little stiffer... but hey, I can't complain -- I'm just glad that this card stock exists!

STIFFER?!? What are you, a masochist?