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The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« on: February 07, 2016, 10:28:30 PM »
 

RandCo

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Introducing the Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set.

This new product is a special 4 deck set of custom Bicycle Playing Cards in blue, purple, green, and red, all with the same backs. The 4 decks used together form a unique mega deck of 208 unique cards with 16 different suits. The 4 standard suits in 4 different colors.

With this original playing card set you can play fun variations of your favorite card games or create new ones.

The custom aspect of this playing card set is in the unique game playing elements, the artwork is the standard Bicycle art with some small additional game elements. Playing card collectors may want to add this set to their collection though, because it has unique colors (including metallic gold and silver inks) and elements not found in any other Bicycle® playing card design.

I began designing this set almost a year ago and have been working on it on and off. I am just now beginning to promote the set through Twitter, Facebook, and blogs, etc.

I hope to put it on Kickstarter by midyear. Because it is a 4 deck set, it will have a large funding goal. When I think it has had enough promotion and support, I will announce the launch date.

For much more info on the set, visit the website at http://myriadcards.com.

I welcome your comments as collectors, and as card players.


Here are some photos from the website:


Myriad box with tuck cases


Myriad box as 2 trays


Tuck cases with Aces


Card backs fanned


Myriad kings


Myriad Jokers


Myriad cut cards


Myriad blank cards


Myriad custom game elements


Myriad Poker hand ranks


Full Set
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Re: The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2016, 06:36:21 AM »
 

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So basically what we're looking at are four decks with Rider Backs and all four suits in a single color, a color that varies from deck to deck?  Or are all the decks the same metallic gold and black colors on the backs?  It's not completely clear as written.

The numbering of the individual cards 1-52 serves what purpose, exactly?  I know of no games that would use this feature.

It really sounds overly ambitious to release four decks at once like this, especially factoring in that they're standard faces albeit recolored.  It might be easier to break the project into two projects - one for two popular colors, the other for two more colors and the box.
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Re: The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 08:59:20 PM »
 

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So basically what we're looking at are four decks with Rider Backs and all four suits in a single color, a color that varies from deck to deck?  Or are all the decks the same metallic gold and black colors on the backs?  It's not completely clear as written.

The numbering of the individual cards 1-52 serves what purpose, exactly?  I know of no games that would use this feature.

It really sounds overly ambitious to release four decks at once like this, especially factoring in that they're standard faces albeit recolored.  It might be easier to break the project into two projects - one for two popular colors, the other for two more colors and the box.

All of the cards have the same black and metallic gold backs, except for the cut cards.

The 1-52 Rank numbers are game elements that can be used in making new games. Players can create their own original games using the set. They can be used to determine a high card in a standard game, but they don't apply to most standard games. They can be be used for scoring purposes, etc. in creating new games.

The 4 decks work together as a set with the 4 colors acting like the 4 suits.

I didn't go into much detail to keep the post brief, you need to visit the website to see how the set works.

http://myriadcards.com
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Re: The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 12:39:07 AM »
 

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All of the cards have the same black and metallic gold backs, except for the cut cards.

The 1-52 Rank numbers are game elements that can be used in making new games. Players can create their own original games using the set. They can be used to determine a high card in a standard game, but they don't apply to most standard games. They can be be used for scoring purposes, etc. in creating new games.

The 4 decks work together as a set with the 4 colors acting like the 4 suits.

I didn't go into much detail to keep the post brief, you need to visit the website to see how the set works.

http://myriadcards.com

So, from what I can see, you're trying to make cards that have ranks, suits and unique colors - in essence a "three-dimensional" deck.  The numbers-as-game-feature thing is interesting, but there's no games that use it.  As far as that poker ranking list - poker's complicated enough for most players!  You also don't know the statistics on possible odds of scoring a particular hand, therefore can't accurately rank the values of the hands.

If you want people to become interested in these decks as more than a simple oddity, you should look into making games FIRST to go with them - and not just slapping together any old game rules and sticking a name on it, but something compelling, unique and fun to play.  Most importantly, it has to be easily learned and enjoyed while at the same time different and unique enough that it can ONLY be played with your unique four-deck set.  BTW, what about shuffling?  Four decks shuffled together is HUGE!  Most people can't do it, and "washing" the deck will damage paper cards faster; it's one of the many reasons why casinos prefer plastic cards for poker.

I hate to say it, but many people - perhaps even most people - are lazy when it comes to their games, which is why most people aren't game designers.  You toss them this product with all these unique features and don't give them fun games to play with them, they won't be interested.  You need games that use these features - expecting your customers to come up with all of them on their own isn't going to get the decks into their hands in the first place.  Otherwise, make a simpler design and call it a day for this one.
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Re: The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 07:33:02 AM »
 

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All suits in a deck of cards being the same colour instantly means that I cannot use the decks :(

The customisation, appears to simply be:

- Recolouring the standard Riderback and standard faces.
- Addition of two additional corner pips
- Addition of numbers underneath the usual corner pips
- Modification to the Ace of Spades

I'm in complete agreement with Don here, in that the success of this project puts a lot of emphasis on buyers to create their own games (and that too, games which make use of the additional numbers, and require the cards to have only one colour)... and that is a lot to ask for.

Just the Bicycle branding and classic Riderback design alone isn't enough to guarantee success (and even less so, when you take away the traditional idea of pips/indicies having two colours). As it is, there are already many Riderback colour variations out there -- some even have metallic ink.

Seeing as the funding goal is going to be a big one, my honest opinion at present is that it's going to be an uphill battle. I genuinely hope you prove me wrong though.
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Re: The Bicycle Myriad Playing Card Set
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 06:15:31 AM »
 

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All suits in a deck of cards being the same colour instantly means that I cannot use the decks :(

The customisation, appears to simply be:

- Recolouring the standard Riderback and standard faces.
- Addition of two additional corner pips
- Addition of numbers underneath the usual corner pips
- Modification to the Ace of Spades

I'm in complete agreement with Don here, in that the success of this project puts a lot of emphasis on buyers to create their own games (and that too, games which make use of the additional numbers, and require the cards to have only one colour)... and that is a lot to ask for.

Just the Bicycle branding and classic Riderback design alone isn't enough to guarantee success (and even less so, when you take away the traditional idea of pips/indicies having two colours). As it is, there are already many Riderback colour variations out there -- some even have metallic ink.

Seeing as the funding goal is going to be a big one, my honest opinion at present is that it's going to be an uphill battle. I genuinely hope you prove me wrong though.

I think part of the intent here with having all the decks using the same backing is that it allows for some mixing and matching of colors/suits from deck to deck - one could "customize" a deck by selecting two suits of one color and two suits of another, or make a "no-revoke" deck by using a suit in each color.  However, forcing a consumer to buy four decks of cards in a set for this effect seems to be not really worth it.  There's already plenty of no-revoke decks, and millions if not billions of two-color decks.

It's a serious uphill challenge, especially if the decks are offered without COMPELLING games to play with them.  Otherwise, there's nothing to make this deck set stand out enough to justify the added expense over buying standard Rider Back decks.  Only a "gotta-get-'em-all" Bicycle-brand collector would even consider it a must-have, and there are fewer and fewer such diehards left by the day as the market gets flooded with Bicycle-branded decks.
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